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August 22, 2005 - Comment on trolling reels - Setting here at work waiting for the weather to clear up so I can get back out and fish. I replaced some equipment and thought I would pass along some info. For many, many years I only used Ambassadeur 6600cb reels. Kind of small but, I liked them. Went to Cabela's few months ago and have been reading about Cabela's brand of reels. Cabela's DMG30 open faced bait casters with line counter. Same price as by old Abu Garcia reels, but much bigger. Looked good when I seen them in person so I bought two of them to replace the Abu Garcia's. Man, on the boat catching those 20 lb. stripers and big Wipers. Drag works much better. Bait alert much better. Overall much better. Will not go back to the Abu Garcia's. Another name for the DMG30 is Depthmaster Gold. I use a 8' 6" Depthmaster Trolling series rod. Excellent combo unit.

Mark.

August 18, 2005 - Wichita - Question on tournament fishing opportunities - Hi, I love to fish and am thinking about trying tournament fishing for the first time.  I'm 21 and have my own boat, my next step is find an organization or just find a tournament list and enter one.  Can you help.  I live in Burlington, ks.  So if you know of any open tournaments coming up at Big Hill or around my area, please let me know.  I know its late in the year to be thinking about this but if I hit one now than it will help me determine if its something I want to get into next year. 

Thanks,
David

June 24, 2005 - Answer to question on trucks - MH - I have a 2005 Chevy Colorado LS with the I5 engine. I have the factory trailer towing installed also. I pull a 15' Tri-Haul with a 65 HP Mercury. Boat-Motor-Trailer weighs around 1350 pounds. It pulls it fine. When in hills I drop down to 3rd gear to prevent frequent down shifting and wear on the transmission. I also average around 16 to 17 mpg pulling the boat from Salina to Kanopolis, Wilson, Milford or Marion.
NS

June 23, 2005 - Question on trucks - I've been considering  buying the latest GM truck that has the new I5 engine. I'm wondering how it pulls a 16 ft alum boat with 75 HP merc. Looking for a response back from any local fisherman that has one of these and pulls a boat. MH

June 23, 2005 - Small local lake - Just wanted to post a quick report on 6/22/05. Fished a local lake the state has leased for fishing access. Caught 8 channel cat up to 3 pounds on chicken liver and garlic salt. Missed that many as well. Still have my boat for sale. 18ft Cajun Bass Boat 150 HP Mercury. New carpet, new floor with marine grade plywood and new transom with marine grade plywood. 24 volt foot control trolling motor, Hummingbird fishfinder. Stainless steel prop. It's an older boat but it runs GREAT. If you're looking for a solid boat for fishing this is it. $2975 OBO. 316-640-2645 or tswift@farmersagent.com.
thanks,
travis

June 6, 2005 - Reply to Cheney "missed another one"on June 6 -Fisheries biologists are to update regional reports on the new website as a part of their regular duties.

D

June 6, 2005 - Reply to Cheney "missed another one"on June 5 - Missed another one!....If you read the entire post I think it does say why the post was on the 23rd. and the cause for the delay. I personaly like it when the area biologist takes time to update a report and post on a website that is not a requirement for him to do. How many of us (myslef included) go above and beyond like that at work???? You also did not talk to me on Memorial day as I had a good day fishing on Cheney at the Island and off Thorn point with with shad raps in 6-8 feet of water over the humps!!!

June 6, 2005 - Response to Bass and Pike Question - Well an easy answer is to use larger lures. For pike, unfortunately there isn't much pike in Kansas. I have caught some at Kingman and that would be your best bet. I caught one of mine on a minnow swimbait and then my other off a stick bait like a senko. Bass and pike are larger fish so you need to use larger lures. Pike use four inch or larger plugs. Bass you have an array of lures to choose from. Depends on the type of water, cover, and depth. My favorite lures though would be the plastic worm with a slip sinker on it. Then the square billed crankbait. Then the spinnerbait. All three can get bass with some training on how to use them. The worm is very effective with the let sink and then pull up. Basically called a yo yo method. The square billed crank I like since it gives a good wobble as well as deflects off of timber and vegetation pretty well. Rattle traps are a favorite as well. Great at making noise and you can control their depth. Then the spinnerbait I love for the lily pads. They just don't really get snagged easily and their noise can stir up some strikes.

Hope that helps. Not super detailed, but that can take many pages.

Dominic

June 6, 2005 - Response to Woodson Question - I have fished woodson twice. One thing to note is it did get drained some years back and started fresh. But the one time I did well was more in the middle of summer. I was there more in the evening. I went on one of the camp ground sites that stuck in the lake. Like a fishing pier almost. One side had a fish feeder and was rather deep. Then it had the rock pier and on the other side it had weeds. The weeds worked wonders in the evening. I was using buzzbaits and spinnerbaits. And I caught a bluegill, catfish, and bass off a kastmaster gold colored spoon all in one spot.
The second trip it was still early in the year and a bit chilly. No luck, but didn't fish too long. My dad caught a little walleye while we were just trolling around.

Hope that helps,
Dominic

June 5, 2005 - Woodson Question - I am going bass fishing at Woodson Lake and I have never been there before, do you have any suggestions?

June 5, 2005 - Bass & Pike Question - OK I Know a very good fishing tip and it allows me to catch about any fish that is hungry. Ok I usually wait until the fish start jumping out of the water because this lure is a complete killer when this happens Then you would take a small poper about the size of a bug then you take a bober and put it up the line about 2 to 3 feet away from the poper and then you cast it out and give it 3 tiny quike jerks and wait 5 to 10 secounds then jerk it 3 quik jerks again and repeat until you get a hit so now I told you my best tip. I need help catching pike and bass because the popper attracts other fish quiker not giving it enough time for the bass until night time that is can you tell me what to use . PLEASE E-MAIL BACK AND THIS IS A VERY GOOD FISHING TIP!!!!

June 2, 2005 - Cheney - Sorry Gordon, I didn't see your report on here for that day you were taking about, oh, yeah, you didn't write one. Must have been so good you forgot to report it. There were a lot of boats on the water Memorial Day weekend and I talked with a lot of them and they weren't catching much either so stop letting someone else's opinion of the fishing be taken as a personal attack on yourself. Missed another one!

June 2, 2005 - Walleye Stockings at Cheney
Walleye stockings at Cheney Reservoir (round numbers):
2004     30 million fry     22,000 fingerlings
2003     30 million fry     65,000 fingerlings
2002      5 million fry     50,000 fingerlings
2001      9 million fry
2000      5 million fry
1999      5 million fry
1998      9 million fry
1997     10 million fry
1996      5 million fry
No decision has been made to never stock walleye at Cheney again.
Gordon Schneider, KDWP fisheries biologist.

June 2, 2005 - About Cheney reports from the state - I noticed a report dated May 31 that included, "PS, the fishing report for Cheney online does not seem to be so accurate! Not that Excellent as far as numbers biting. I would say the fishing is good."  My son and I fished May 21 and in two hours caught 25 white bass, 10 wipers, and four walleye.  If that's not excellent, I want to go fishing with you.  I posted the report the first thing Monday morning, May 23.  The Pratt staff has to be in to allow me to update the reports, so that was my first opportunity.  Posting reports on the new web page is slow and tedious, and I haven't updated it since, but guess what?  It's still the same.  Gordon Schneider, KDWP fisheries biologist.

May 27, 2005 - Response to walleye stocking at Cheney - Personally I think it is a good move to not stock Cheney with fingerlings this year with all the white perch that are in the lake. If they stock fingerlings all they are going to be doing is feeding the white perch. I agree with KDWP's move, I just hope this means they will be stocking more of the 6-8" wipers or maybe some blue cats to take out the white perch.

Ryan

May 25, 2005 - Response to walleye stocking at Cheney - I did go to the website and checked to see the total walleye stocked at Cheney, and let me apologize, these were the stockings for 2004.  They have yet to publish the 2005 stocking and I don't believe they will until the end of the year.  The total amount was 29,770,702 walleye fry last year, which was far and above any other body of water in the state.  I hope the lake comes back to what it used to be, and I'm sure it will.  In my opinion, the decline in the walleye population was mainly due to over-harvest.  We had our last KWA tourney there I think in 2001 and there was something like 86 8-fish limits brought in out of 110 boats.  Most of the fish in the lake at the time were right at 18 inches and longer.  There was good and bad news I will never forget on that day.  The good news was that there were only like 15-20 fish which didn't survive the weigh-in, which was phenomenal considering the heat and long wait to weigh in that day.  The bad news was that there was an even longer line waiting across the cove to clean walleye then there was weighing in walleye in the tournament.  I would imagine this dealt a major blow to the overall population in the lake.  I have split views on this subject.  I am pretty much a catch and release fisherman, only keep enough to eat without having to freeze it.  So when I see that many fish being caught and taken out of the lake, I know it will take years to replenish the population.  But on the flipside, I don't blame those who keep their limit every time they go out, mainly due to the fact that we as taxpayers and park-users pay for the walleye to be in there in the first place.  So overall, we need to praise our wildlife and parks for the wonderful job they are doing to keep our fish populations throughout Kansas at the levels we are seeing right now.  So Ron, I hope the stocking last year of nearly 30,000,000 fry in Cheney will get your hopes up for the years to come.  Sorry for the confusion and good luck!
 
Brian

May 25, 2005 - Response to walleye stocking at Cheney -The story I saw was in the Eagle and maybe I miss understood it. It wasn't very big and it was part of another story I think. but the information I garnered from the story was that because the last 2 years being poor retention of the stockings they weren't going to stock walley this year. didn't mean to mislead anyone sorry
happy fishing
ron

May 24, 2005 - Response to walleye stocking at Cheney - Go to the KDWP website and click on fish stockings. I think you'll see that Cheney probably stocked the most walleye of any lake this year. That is the first I've heard that they were considering not stocking walleye any more in Cheney. Sure you're not thinking of stripers?

Brian

May 24, 2005 - Cheney - My son & I went to Cheney on Sat 5/21 for a couple of hours in the evening. and we caught 3 short walleyes in 2 hours trolling off of Wichita & m&m points.  I've caught more shorts this year than in previous 2 years. I hope Fish & Game reconsiders their decision to not stock Walleye there anymore.  I also went Sunday 5/22 to Cheney and I caught a 20" Walleye trolling in the Bay between refuge point and red bluffs area. on the flat with no structure around. released the 20"er.  caught a 22"er 'eye to the northwest of refuge point.  Made for delicious eating Sunday night.  Trolling speed about 3 mph. using a jointed #5 shad rap in shad color for all but 1 fish on the 2 days.
An anwer to the question for hot spots for walleye?  Which lake? From shore or boat?  Look for wind blown shallow points start shallow and work deep.  fish the front of point but check top and back as well. try trees and also weed beds. if on a boat try drifting flats next to structure.  and the Dam
happy fishing
ron
rvkin@aol.com if you have more questions about where the hot spots are

April 15, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - Well, it looks like all our bitching has paid off for once.  Has anyone else noticed that now you can view the regions fishing reports again all at one time.  That was my biggest complaint and I am glad that they changed it.  Thank you for listening. Ryan

April 7, 2005 - Crappie at Marion - I'm coming to Kansas for a fishing trip this spring.  Can anyone tell me anything about the crappie situation at Marion?  I fished it as a youth in its heyday, but now my Kansas contacts tell me it is a mystery.  The biologists report good crappie populations, but fishermen  seemingly find them really hard to find.  I'm not interested in joining the crowds at the broken bridge, interested more in main lake info.   Any/all tips would be appreciated. 

Tim Schrag, Normal, Illinois

March 30, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - I for one like the new site design. I find it easy to navigate and it contains much more information than the old site. And after reading the 3/28 comment about the Urban fishing section and lack of data, I went right to the Urban section and found the information that was supposedly not there. I especially like the CFAP lake data.

March 28, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - I too have looked at the new page and wondered why
things were changed..I called Pratt on catfish stocking and was told to call may local office here in Sedgwick County...I finally got the word that the contract has not been signed on catfish stocking..Hmmn I thought the catfish was coming from Pratt...I was told it will be sometime in April before the first stocking but I really miss the Urban fishing site which listed each lake and gave the date of each stocking...This new site doesn't provide that information yet...Change is not always good....

March 25, 2005 - Answer to looking for a special hook -I cannot visualize the exact style hook you are looking for. I imagine it uses wire for the weedless feature and has weight on the hook shank. It might be possible to use the currently available weedless hooks and purchase a Do-it mold with which you can mold the weight over the hook. Check at www.do-itmolds.com or zeiners.safeshopper.com. Best of luck.

Dean B.

March 23, 2005 - Looking for a special hook - Several years ago, Eagle Claw manufactured a weedless worm hook (similar to
their current weedless worm hook) but this hook was weighted. The (elongated weight) was part of the hook, on the shaft. Again, it was like current EC weedless hooks, made with the wire weed guard, but it had a weight built in.

I believe they went off the market about 10 years ago. I don't know if anyone on this board would know where I could find some, or if anyone would like to sell some. I have checked ebay and various hook sites on the web, but have had no luck. I can be reached at jeff.herndon@kake.com. Thanks

March 21, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - I kinda like the new site. It may take a while longer to get around, but I never knew there where 4# walleye in Chisholm Creek Park from the old site. Whatever you do though, DON'T TRY IT. (at least till I get out there) BIG T

March 21, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - I whole heartedly agree with you guys. That site sucks and it's mickey mouse compaired to their old site. the old had so much better graphics and so much easier to navigate. and when i tried to email them my thoughts it wouldn't send (took to long to think about it) that's something a six grader would but on the web or one of those adult porn site.
happy fishing ron k

March 20, 2005
- Comment about new KW&P Website Design - If you really want to do something about this, send a message to your Kansas State Senator and House representative for your area concerning it. If enough of them get messages from those they are supposed to represent, you
might get something done about it. Ask them why a company from OUTSIDE the State to say nothing of outside the confines of this REPUBLIC was contracted to do this work. My tax dollars and license fees could have gone for something 100% more user friendly like the old website than this pretty un-user friendly website.
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March 19, 2005 - Walleye at Cheney - MR- Hey i am back from Iraq! Just wanted to thank everyone for the words of encouragement. Went out to the dam at Cheney on Thursday, caught three smaller males in about 3 hours. Not very productive but was nice to get out and catch some pre-spawn fish. good luck!

March 18, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - I hate it. Before it was nice and simple you could click by region and see what was happening where. Now it takes 20 minutes to look around the state and see what is going on. Sure it looks nice but on an usability scale they wasted their money. Also I am sooooo glad to see that my tax dollars and permit fees are going out of the US. If it aint broke don't fix it. This is about as bad as not stocking stripers in Cheney. Ryan

March 18, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - I think the new web page is horrible!!!! I totally agree with you in that it takes way too much time to go from lake to lake. I had to email them my thoughts as I hope they will consider going back to the old style. In my opinion, I thought the old style was one of the best in the country, and I've browsed several. Let's pray the go back!!

March 18, 2005 - Comment about new KW&P Website Design - How does every body like the New Look? It's takes more clicks to get where you, want to go.I know change is good,butt if you want to spend money stock more Fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. The Web Master that built the web site ought to find a new job.When you scroll clear to the bottom of kdwp page,you will see EZ Systems,software that wasnt developed in the USA. Keep or MONEY here in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Editor's Note - I was surprised with the new design also. I had seen it earlier and thought they would improve it. We will continue our reports in the same format that we've had for years. Each of the five regions will continue to be on the same page. The state lets us use their reports, but it is certainly more difficult now to update our pages. Let your friends know they can visit kansasangler.com and see the reports in an easier to use format.

March 1, 2005 - Thanks for answer to Grand Lake Question - My thanks to the fellow that replied to my Grand Lake question. I'm assuming the jig colors are black and blue? Or black and black?

Again thank you,
Ol' Mike

February 28, 2005 - Answer to Grand Lake Question from Feb. 11 - I will be at Table Rock this year during this time, but. I traditionally have done well in the back of elk river on channel swing banks. 3 lures (2 typical, 1 different for these parts): clown colored rogue or pointer 100 (10 ­ 15 second pauses); bl/bl 5/16 oz jig (heavy line for slow fall to bottom then deadstick for 10-15 count); LV-500 lucky craft rat'l trap (clown color)<fish as if slow rolling a spinnerbait>. Last year a hot lure was a bandit 200 or wiggle wartthese 2 lures accounted for a number of early March tournaments from Lake of the Ozarks, Table Rock, and the early season BFL at Grandeach year is different though.

If Elk River gets hit pretty good by others, I like to fish mid-lake coves (north sides) and use the rogue along sides of docks, jig around wood.

February 22, 2005 - Just Dreaming - WENT TO THE SPORT BOAT AND TRAVEL SHOW OVER THE WEEKEND. HIRED A GUIDE FOR STRIPER FISHING AT BEAVER FOR JUNE. LOOKED AT ALL THE NEW BOATS AND EQUIPMENT AT THE SHOW. THEN MONDAY NIGHT ON THE OUTDOOR CHANNEL, (SATELLITE) I WATCHED MONDAY NIGHT FISHING FOR 4HRS. STRIGHT IN THE BASEMENT. THEN I TOOK A BREAK AND HEADED TO THE GARAGE AND TOOK THE COVER OFF THE BOAT. SAT IN THE CHAIR TURNED ON THE ELETRONICS AND STARTED DREAMING OF ALL THOSE STRIPER AND WIPERS. THEN I HEARD THE DOOR OPEN AND I LOOKED AND IT WAS MY WIFE STAIRING AT ME. SHE ASKED WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU DOING OUT HERE IN THE GARAGE IN THE BOAT? I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY. SO I SAID NOTHING. SO, THE WIFE SAID WITH A SMILE ON HER FACE. YOU NEED TO GO SEE A PHYCOLOGIST. MAYBE SO? CAN'T WAIT FOR SPRING. MARK.

February 11, 2005 - Grand Lake question - An out of state friend is to fish a Bass tournament at Grand Lake, OK March 13. The tournament starts at Martin Landing. He is asking for information about the lake such as accommodations, lure selections, areas of the lake to fish, etc. I would greatly appreciate any input! Ol' Mike

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